Monday, July 12, 2010

Our First JJ Contract Casualty

So, in our first casualty of the summer, we have....

a sign-and-trade of Josh Childress for a Phoenix Suns 2012 2nd Round Pick.

I'll let my friends at Peachtree Hoops and Hoopinion tell you why this may or may not be a great thing, but let it be repeated here - that this is missed opportunity no. 1 for management to prove to me that they were trying to add pieces to the roster in an effort to contend for a title. It was pretty much a forgone conclusion that Josh Childress was never going to be brought back here. I'd just like to see which overseas talent we're going to bring back with the 40-50th pick of the 2012 draft only to leave them overseas so we don't have to pay them. Should be interesting...

Let the Al Horford Contract Watch begin...

So, for my blog haters, I don't blame JJ for this (I blame JJ for lying about whether or not he wants to win a title over making an extra $30M or so - he absolutely would sacrifice a title for the money, which is fine - just don't lie and say that something that's not true). I am consistent about this much - ASG is certainly talking out of both sides of its mouth. You don't trade first round picks for cash or trade assets you kept for 2 years with no return only to get back a 2nd round pick. I'm almost CERTAIN that the Bucks would have given the Hawks a better 2nd round pick and even a player last year for Childress, so this is actually getting to the point of laughability with regards to what these guys say and what these guys do. I'm watching what they do and it all points to ... here's why you're broke.

5 comments:

Jesse said...

If Chillz accepted the QO, it would have cost the ASG roughly $4.8mil. If he did not and they couldn't move him, he would have costs them ~$10.8mil against the cap. If I am remembering my math correctly, either way would have put the Hawks into the luxury tax. I think the relationship between the ASG and Chillz was broken beyond repair so that this was the only remaining move they could have possibly done to salvage anything from his rights. However, understanding the situation and agreeing with the results are two things entirely. The result of the move (combined with the weak draft moves) leave me feeling like the ASG really do not fight for things when negotiating. It really feels like they simply jump at the first offer just so they can save a buck today.

Does this mean they are trying to save every last penny to get a better player? Who knows, but I wouldn't hold my breath on the Hawks being anything other than what they were last year roster-wise.

ATL_Hawk_Luv said...

Well, I hear you, but here's the thing..good organizations figure these things out for the betterment of the team.

I recall Phil Jackson and Kobe being mad at the Lakers. MJ and Phil were mad at the Bulls. I mean - they figure the shyt out. So, as far as I'm concerned, Josh Childress was a good piece. He has an ugly shot. So what - he plays D, gets rebounds and only takes shots he can make. Sounds like someone I want on my team. As for the cap hit, according to ASG, they are going to spend the money to make the team better, right? (smile)

Anyway, I don't think this is about a broken relationship. I think it's about being cheap and your point about how we aren't savvy enough to recoup good value for our assets. I know there were 3 teams who wanted J-Chills and you're telling me the BEST we could get out of that asset was a 2012 draft pick. I don't believe that and I'm even more inclined to believe that they WANTED the 2nd round pick in order to say they got something, but yet only get something that they either don't have to pay later or would have to pay very little being that we haven't had a 2nd round pick make the roster in Lord knows when.

Seriously, I'm familiarizing myself with all of the OKC players weekly and getting my NBA season pass ready, so I can starting blogging for a team that matters. We're starting to not matter anymore.

Brad said...

Couldn't agree more. I love that OKC team

Jesse said...

I'm going to reply in point format...

1. "good organizations figure these things out for the betterment of the team."

That would be assuming that the ASG is a good organization. I think it's high time we all let those kinds of assumption go. It's just better for your long term health at this point.

2. "I don't think this is about a broken relationship."

Actually, I think this is a pretty big part of it. It doesn't matter if Chillz was a good piece that could help if he no longer wanted to play for the Hawks. Maybe he feels slighted because the organization chose Williams over him. Regardless, if he had decided that nothing would get him back into a Hawks uni, then the move itself was the only option the ASG had to salvage the situation. The fact that it saves them more money in the end is just a plus. That being said, my original thought is still the same in that while I agree with the move and I do not agree that the return was all they could have gotten for him. That just leads back to point one above.

Basically, I agree. Right now, I just don't feel that the ASG has any interest in anything other than saving as much as possible while waiting for someone to buy the team from them. With each move they make, it becomes abundantly clear that they plain flat-out want out of the game. Frankly, I can't wait till they are gone.

As for switching fanhoods, that just ain't happening here. I've been a fan since the 80's and while OKC is one helluva fun team to watch, they aren't my team. There's no historical, emotional attachment. I understand your frustration, but maybe instead of a full switch it's a break you need. Maybe you just need to divest yourself of such strong emotional connections to the team for a bit. Take a step back this year and just enjoy the game for what it is, a game, and let yourself be enjoyed by the simple aspects of it. That's exactly what I did for the last five years of that decade long crapfest and I think if you did the same you might find it less taxing. Just a suggestion.

But if you do decide to blog about the Thunder, you can bet I'll be reading still. I just love that team and how they run things there. My only question is how come they couldn't do that in Seatlle?

ATL_Hawk_Luv said...

Thanks Jesse...

I'm definitely torn right now. It goes without saying that my trust in the Hawks as an organization is broken right now. I don't have a problem with not winning, but when you just become brazen with how you operate - it's hard to stay devoted when you know in your heart that this stuff is ridiculous.

It'd be different if I was getting paid or if they were honest, but I feel like they are lying to me AND making terrible decisions to boot.

You're right, maybe a break is in order.